Posted to tcl by miguel at Fri Mar 04 20:31:52 GMT 2011view raw

  1. [15:20] jdp magdyyasen, if you ask your question perhaps someone will answer it, but no-one will if you don't.
  2. [15:21] <magdyyasen> i have question about how far tcl/tk libraries support Right to Left languages like hebrew and arabic as when i use amsn in my ubuntu 10.04 i find that when i write arabic it is written reversed way
  3. [15:21] tclguy http://wiki.tcl.tk/1126
  4. [15:22] tclguy http://wiki.tcl.tk/699 - A simple Arabic renderer <http://wiki.tcl.tk/_/ref?N=699>
  5. [15:22] tclguy Tk doesn't have the "core" support that makes it automagic, but you can layer over some level of support
  6. [15:22] tclguy "Heblish" - http://wiki.tcl.tk/704
  7. [15:23] <magdyyasen> sir i want to tell you that i am not very expert in ubuntu and tcl/tk so please i need an affirm do you mean that i need to install heblish from http://wiki.tcl.tk/704
  8. [15:24] <magdyyasen> ?
  9. [15:24] tclguy there isn't a direct package for it that I'm aware of
  10. [15:24] ferrieux is it a question for Amsn ?
  11. [15:24] <jylevy> gm world
  12. [15:24] tclguy but leveraging the routines used on those pages, the amsn people could support rtl
  13. [15:24] tclguy limited rtl
  14. [15:24] <jylevy> hey Jeff ltnc
  15. [15:25] tclguy hi jacob. all's well I hope?
  16. [15:25] <jylevy> yes, yahoo still fun
  17. [15:25] <jylevy> mistachkin if you're on say hi
  18. [15:25] tclguy not a stressful env at yahoo?
  19. [15:25] <jylevy> nah vry relaxed
  20. [15:25] tclguy the news isn't easy on them
  21. [15:25] <magdyyasen> actually i asked amsn for this and they told me that it is tcl/tk and i should talk with tcl team
  22. [15:25] <jylevy> its as stressful as you let it be stressful
  23. [15:26] tclguy magdyyasen - that's partly true
  24. [15:26] <magdyyasen> and here i am doing talking to you for solution
  25. [15:26] tclguy Tk _could_ do it in the core, but it doesn't
  26. [15:26] tclguy however, it _can_ be supported at the app level
  27. [15:26] <magdyyasen> becuase they told me that amsn is using tcl t
  28. [15:26] ferrieux the solutions given at script-level are simple
  29. [15:26] jdp I guess what we really want right now is to go take those wiki pages to the aMsn crew?
  30. [15:26] tclguy perhaps they weren't aware of that
  31. [15:26] <jylevy> tclguy I'm working on a big project to leevrage eagle
  32. [15:26] tclguy seriously?
  33. [15:26] <jylevy> yes
  34. [15:27] <jylevy> its very cool stuff
  35. [15:27] <jylevy> only problem is the speed reminds me of pre-brian's compiler
  36. [15:27] tclguy hehe, yes
  37. [15:27] <jylevy> you just have to be careful, do most things in C#
  38. [15:27] <jylevy> really use it only for glue
  39. [15:28] <jylevy> but tbh what I'm using it for the perf is dominated by latency (web ops) anyways
  40. [15:28] <jylevy> so not a big deal, plus there's threading tricks to make it seem ultra responsive nonetheless
  41. [15:28] kbk re amsn - better to ask when KaKaRoTo is in the room
  42. [15:29] <jylevy> hi kbk I was asked by mistachkin to contact you, whats the best email?
  43. [15:29] <magdyyasen> you said that tk can support right to left language in their core but they don't !!! so why don't they do it ? is it so difficult ? and finally isn't there solution for this situation i have
  44. [15:29] <magdyyasen> ?
  45. [15:29] tclguy you could make a ctext-like megawidget that would support rtl ... that might be interesting
  46. [15:29] kbk jylevy - kennykb at acm dot org
  47. [15:29] tclguy magdyyasen - fully correct rtl support is not trivial
  48. [15:29] <jylevy> kbk will do, email will be jaclevy 2010 at gee mal de mer
  49. [15:30] kbk magdyyasen - Yes, it is hard. (Arabic is particularly hard - at least if you want the result to be readable)
  50. [15:31] jdp magdyyasen, bear in mind that you just walked into a chatroom full of developers, generally aimed at developers. Are you a programmer?
  51. [15:32] <magdyyasen> i am not programmer for operation systems i use matlab and c may be but in my field as electronic engineer no more